No matter what tattoo you’re after, if you get it in the ditch—either in the crook of the elbow or the back of the knee (or armpit!?)—it’s going to be a tough job, and it’s going to hurt.

Everyone knows that most, if not all tattoos hurt, but seriously, this one (aka the elbow crease and behind the knee crease) hurts!

For tattoo artists, ditch art is either kryptonite or a source of pride. Because the area is so prone to movement and shifting skin, it is incredibly difficult to get their art into that epidermis correctly. Masters of the ditch, however, are the true wizards of the tattoo.

If you’re considering a ditch tattoo, recognize the fact that this area takes longer to heal than any other area on the body and requires special attention. With movement and day-to-day activity, your ditch(es) is constantly in motion and rubbing against other skin. For it to heal properly and look its best, you’re going to have to keep your arm or leg as straight as possible for 36 hours following your session.

That said, if you are a true tattoo aficionado, you know that some solid ditch ink is one of the greatest prizes you can carry. If you think you’re ready, then plan out some time, download the complete Lord of the Rings trilogy extended versions, place all food, devices, books, etc. around you and let it rip.